Rich was a really humble guy til he straped into a race car. We became friends in Florida running midgets. He was driving for Harry Turner, in one of Harry's "tub" cars. Each of us had one mechanical problem after another, the hitch broke off Harry's Rambler station wagon, some fella with a one man body shop took pity on us. He let us regroup there making repairs for a few days. We were so broke we picked oranges for gas money to get back home.