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Msg ID: 2537225 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
10/28/2018 7:29:36 PM

Joey "The Joker" Logano drives his way to Miami through the rear bumper of the #78.

Truex runs him clean, side by side for the last 10 laps... Could have taken the #22 out multiple times... Continued to race him clean...  Made the clean pass on Logano on the last lap...  Logano runs it hard into turn 3, and solidly pushes Truex up the track, and goes on to take the win.

Curious that Logano didn't stop on the frontstretch and grab the checkered flag as has become the norm for cup winners.  Looked like he stopped on the backstretch maybe?  Not sure why, but I'm thinking that it would have been pretty hostile over by where the remaining crowd was booing.  Think there's quite a few more Truex fans out there than Logano fans, and there's probably even less Logano fans after today's event.

Truex ends up 3rd, and all Logano can say is, "I'm on my way to Miami!"

 

They say that rivalries are good for the sport.  

In the post race, Junior said, "I tell Martin that he's too nice..."

I always liked the rule that you race others the way they race you.  Based on that, I think it was a pretty chicken shi+ move on Logano's part, but I'm not a racer, and maybe that no longer holds true for some.

I don't know if Truex can win the championship, but I know that he can make it difficult for Logano to win.


 


 



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Msg ID: 2537226 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:buddhavb
10/28/2018 7:35:30 PM

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Just saw the recap on the last 5-6 laps. Lagano is such a Richard!

Allen Urry



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Msg ID: 2537233 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Dirtmod#9
10/28/2018 7:46:50 PM

Reply to: 2537226

Joey better hope that Martin is in the final four and still racing for a Championship at Homestead and not just there to see who isn't going to win it.



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Msg ID: 2537236 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Gordon1
10/28/2018 7:47:38 PM

Reply to: 2537226

Did what he had to do.Perhaps Truex should start driving the way others drive him.Great race even better finish.A classic for sure.Gotta wonder what Godown would have done lol!



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Msg ID: 2537238 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:rww111
10/28/2018 7:56:28 PM

Reply to: 2537225

Not much different than Dillon at Daytona. i think if you wreck or push the leader out of the way on the last lap you should be DQed.  That's often what happens on dirt tracks. Don't like the playoff format and don't like Joey.



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Msg ID: 2537242 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/28/2018 8:19:08 PM

Reply to: 2537225
Exactly why I don't watch anymore and have no idea what's going on with that. You could put a gun to my head and I couldn't tell you who's contending for the championship.


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Msg ID: 2537258 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Fred Voorhees
10/28/2018 10:57:22 PM

Reply to: 2537225
Well, I'll play the devils advocate here. The move that Logano made...first of all...it wasnt a solid drive up the track. It was a typical bump and run situation that occurs often during a season. The difference here is that it was a "local boy" that got the short end of the stick. The bump and run is an accepted tactic these days...moral?...dirty?...unethical? Thats up to personal opinion. Fact is, its accepted. All drivers know that. Truthfully, I would have preferred that Martin win, I was cheering him on right to the end. Tkes rouble is, just because Martin ran him clean, does not mean that Logano had to abide by tge self imposed principles that Martin abides by. An accepted practice is accepted. When Martin took the lead, he accepted the fact tgat he might be knocked out of the way by a driver who was willing to employ an accepted practice. It was a high stakes situation. Martin should have hoped to get away from him but he couldnt. An d one last thing, in either the pre-show or the actual race broadcast, one of the talking points was the fact that each and every chase driver was polled about if they woud dump someone in the exact situation that occurred. Sorry to tell you that to a man, every one of them..Martin included, said yes, tgey would turn or bump someone out of the way to gain entry into the final four. I didnt make that up...it was stated in tge broadcast. Hate away if yiu must, I have big shoulders. I myself wanted Martin to win, but I wont let sentimentality cliud my judgement.


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Msg ID: 2537259 Stopping on the backstretch +0/-0     
Author:Fred Voorhees
10/28/2018 11:02:16 PM

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It was announced that the driver was instructed to stop on the backstretch as victory lane ceremonies were being set up on tge frontstretch. So, no matter who won, they would have stopped back there. Dont ask me, thats what they said on the broadcast.


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Msg ID: 2537263 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:racerx43
10/29/2018 12:37:33 AM

Reply to: 2537225

Just a reply in general to no one in particular. There was beatin' and bangin' the whole race. As the race wore on, the more it happened. Some by accident, some intentional. Truex DID get into Logano twice. Not hard but still contact. Once in the rear bumper and once door to door.

Bumping has been going on in racing since the beginning of racing on ALL levels. At Nazareth I saw Rags Carter bump Elton Hildreth out of the way last turn to take a win away. It happens.. Get over it. How about Earnhardt bumping Bobby Hamilton at Rockingham was it, out of the way? And lots of others.

Rubbin's racing!!

Fred/racerx43



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Msg ID: 2537269 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:gasman44
10/29/2018 5:36:06 AM

Reply to: 2537225
Logano is safe until homestead. But then,,he should expect his rear bumper to be pushed into his headrest on any given lap.I always felt bump and run, when slower cars are a holding a driver up, is one thing. Outright pushing someone out of the groove because you dont want then passing you is another story,,,like joe said, real chicken $hit move, and karma is a b!+ch, and all the people saying saying how its "fair game" shouldn't say a peep as logano is hauled off on a rollback at miami


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Msg ID: 2537274 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:paintman
10/29/2018 6:57:00 AM

Reply to: 2537225

I never understood.............when Earnhardt and Waltrip did this stuff, everybody loved them. Lets not forget, the first 5 years of his career Joey got run over by everbody, including his teammates and the pace car. Also, wasn't it Joey that got chopped and wrecked by Carl Edwards a few years back when he went for the win at the final race in Homestead. This kind of stuff has been happening at short tracks for the last 70 years.



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Msg ID: 2537275 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Painterskip
10/29/2018 7:33:20 AM

Reply to: 2537274

I was just thinking the same thing....that Earnhardt did this all the time and everyone loved it. I distinctly recall him moving Terry Labonte out of the way at Bristol (I think). Not once, but twice.

So yeah....if it's OK for some, it should be OK for all and where you came from should have no bearing on that. Of course, that'll never happen.....whether it's sports, employment or anything else. Unfortunately.



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Msg ID: 2537280 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:ED
10/29/2018 8:35:37 AM

Reply to: 2537275

I'm with John--saw Max win the F1 race in Mexico City but didn't bother with NASCRAP.



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Msg ID: 2537281 Sorry to hear that..... +0/-0     
Author:Fred Voorhees
10/29/2018 8:52:55 AM

Reply to: 2537280
.....you obviously missed a great race.


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Msg ID: 2537290 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:crew51M
10/29/2018 9:58:25 AM

Reply to: 2537280

Ya me too. Even Jeff Gordan had more interest in the F1 race. Also watched the Giants go 1-7. Maybe Eli would be a better driver, he would be clean, he cant hit recievers let alone another car. Refuse to watch Nascar. But did just watch the last lap when Logano blatently moved him for the win. The new generation of quality professional drivers. Ya right.



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Msg ID: 2537286 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:George Perkins
10/29/2018 9:11:41 AM

Reply to: 2537274

I quit following Nascar because of the crap they let Earnhardt get away with. It changed all forms of racing forever and not in a good way. :(



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Msg ID: 2537287 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
10/29/2018 9:38:57 AM

Reply to: 2537225

Well..  to "big shoulders Fred" and to others following this thread, the way I look at it is lap 501 of Martinsville begins next Sunday at 3pm in Texas.... and the conclusion of that Martinsville race might not happen 'till sometime late in the day in Miami, where as Joey explained in his out of the car turn 3 interview, it's all about getting to Miami...

Still think it was a chicken shi+ move on Logano's part after the effort Truex made to race for the lead about as cleanly as I think anyone can at Martinsville, but like I said, rivalries are good for the sport.

I wonder if Joey's making any phone calls this morning.... 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2016/10/04/joey-logano-not-calling-matt-kenseth-may-have-cost-me-cup-title-2015/91548020/

 



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Msg ID: 2537291 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Dave Daniels
10/29/2018 10:05:25 AM

Reply to: 2537287

I actually did watch this race. To all those bashing Logano. He's paid to win. Leading on the last lap of a short track is a tough position to keep if someone is breathing down your neck. Truex did his best at holding him off by slightly brake checking. He took a shot in the LR, got loose, and lost the position. That is racing folks. There are no nice guys standing in victory lane, usually. If you have never driven a race car but sat in the stands, your outlook will be drastically different from those of us that have turned a wheel. David Daniels 28D



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Msg ID: 2537294 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:dnoldschool
10/29/2018 10:24:19 AM

Reply to: 2537291
I agree with everything Fred and Dave said. Sr and DW made it acceptible to race like that and the fans packed the place. Let get real boys anyone of us would have done the same thing with that much on the line. It is racing,short track racing, that's why people go. It also is an example of what we have become as a society,win at all cost,we accept it every day,why not at the races


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Msg ID: 2537299 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Roger Laureno
10/29/2018 10:58:31 AM

Reply to: 2537294

I agree with Joe , it was a BS move after the way Martin treated him and took as many laps as he did to pass Logano  clean.  I also think George Perkins has it right. For years , there was a code among drivers that all seemed to go out the window as Sr's antics were rationalized.

It take a lot of talent and skill to pass a car like Truex did but  anyone can smash into the back of a car going into a corner and pass . A lot of people like to watch demolition derbys too but it's not my thing.

I guess 1 reason I have taken a liking to 410 sprint car racing is the drivers don't use their cars for battering rams. They race hard and for the most part, there is mutual respect and don't intentionaly wreck each other



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Msg ID: 2537308 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/29/2018 11:44:39 AM

Reply to: 2537299
Amen, Roger.


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Msg ID: 2537389 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:gasman44
10/29/2018 8:39:50 PM

Reply to: 2537299
I agree roger,,,,,hell, anybody can drive like a windshield wiper, and swat at every faster car, to keep from being passed. I personally couldnt stand sr, for the way he drove people into the wall, then smirked after the race. I was certainly no fan,,,,and since it HAS become accepted in nascar, joey better realize he has one coming, and its gonna happen when it hurts most. Joe hit the nail on the head, chicken $hit racing,,,


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Msg ID: 2537300 Thank you dn +0/-0     
Author:Fred Voorhees
10/29/2018 10:59:51 AM

Reply to: 2537294
Another thing occurred to me. Whats the difference between nudging someone out of the way on a short track (and that is pretty much what Logano did yesterday...not drove Martin up the track...that was an inflammatory statement - maybe to help stimulate a rousing thread)so, what is the difference between a nudge on a short track and taking the air off of another car on a big track? Result is the same...someone is usually loosing positions. I stated my opinion and stand fully behind it. When name calling comes into play, it signals that the name caller has his or her back up against the wall in an arguement. And again, Martin joined every other driver that is left in the chase stating that they would do exactly what Logano did had they found themselves in that situation. I find it curious that all of these "fans" who claim to avoid NASCAR like the plague come out of the woodwork to express their opinions when something like this occurs. Suddenly its tge center if their universe.


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Msg ID: 2537302 Thank you dn +0/-0     
Author:Howie76
10/29/2018 11:05:39 AM

Reply to: 2537300

I would rather have seen Martin win the race, but this is the top division in Nascar, and the driver is paid to win. Joey did what he had to do. It actually helps Nascar because now alot of people are talking about it. Could possibly fill more seats to see if Martin will do anything about it. Just look at this thread, definetely has people talking about it.



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Msg ID: 2537620 Thank you dn +0/-0     
Author:gasman44
10/31/2018 5:38:06 AM

Reply to: 2537302
Flip side is, it angered a lot of people, and if championships are going to be decided by pushing faster cars out of the way,,,I'll watch football instead. I went about 10 years without watching a single lap of nascar, during the Earnhardt sr years because my interest in racing doesn't include chicken $hit driving to knock faster cars out of the way when a driver is getting outdriven. To me, that's not racing,,,its dirty,,and after watching pretty much every race this season,,i watched my last lap of the year.


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Msg ID: 2537301 Baloney. +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/29/2018 11:05:37 AM

Reply to: 2537294
It'll cost you 10g's for a loose lug nut, more than that and a crew chief suspension if your LF fender is 1/64" too low, but it's perfectly fine to run down into the corner and knock someone's rear bumper off to win a race? Maybe that's why the stands are empty and TV ratings suck. Horsebleep racing. I'm telling right now, I race a guy clean, pass him and he dumps me to win, he's getting his nose bloodied, no doubt about it. If Nascar allows it, they can go jump in a lake too.


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Msg ID: 2537305 Baloney. +0/-0     
Author:sk
10/29/2018 11:30:17 AM

Reply to: 2537301
I absolutely agree with John mc. If you can't pass home without hitting him you don't pass. Bloody beaks I think is the answer. Ryan newmans bonzai into Larson at phoenix is 🍗 💩 all the way. These are supposed to be some of the best drivers in the world.....hah! I rather watch goggles pizano drive like he's coming home from work on the highway. More people in stands at port than Martinsville.


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Msg ID: 2537310 Baloney. +0/-0     
Author:Dirtmod#9
10/29/2018 11:58:11 AM

Reply to: 2537305

It seems like I wasted my time watching a late race side by side battle for the lead Sunday. I just should have cheered when Martin moved into a close second and cheered again for him to Earnhardt his way a win on lap 499 and 3/4.



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Msg ID: 2537311 Baloney. +0/-0     
Author:kjeyres
10/29/2018 12:09:32 PM

Reply to: 2537310

I disagree with every opinion here.  Just for the sake of disageeing.

Dave Daniels is right though. Martin went in knowing he was going to get hit, straightened the wheel, locked the brakes and took the hit. By the time he got it going again, Logano was under him. 



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Msg ID: 2537313 Exactly Kevin!! +0/-0     
Author:Fred Voorhees
10/29/2018 12:31:02 PM

Reply to: 2537311
Martin knew the deal. He stated as much in the polling of the chase drivers. They all knew that given the chance to move a driver to advance to the finals, they would do it. So, why is it wrong of Logano...a fellow chade driver to move him when he himself admitted he would have done it the same way. Loganos "bump" was little more than a nudge. He wasn't driven up the track, he was on the wrong end of the lyck stick on thus one. Smarter move would have been to (1) pass fir the lead and get away from any bumps from behind...or (2) remain in second and pull the bumo and run himself. He did neither and it cost him the race.


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Msg ID: 2537316 Exactly Kevin!! +0/-0     
Author:Grumpygp
10/29/2018 1:03:43 PM

Reply to: 2537313

Martins mistake was not hanging Joey on the outside where he couldn't drop in behind him

 



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Msg ID: 2537621 Exactly Kevin!! +0/-0     
Author:gasman44
10/31/2018 5:50:02 AM

Reply to: 2537313
Well luckily for martin,,,he has a chance to play spoiler, which will make him revisit his choices about punting logano.


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Msg ID: 2537312 Baloney. +0/-0     
Author:Gordon1
10/29/2018 12:12:54 PM

Reply to: 2537310

Complain,complain.That was an awesome race with a great finish.Next thing you know people will complain about boring finishes.Logano didn’t take him out like SR. would have,he just nudged him enough to win.Kyle Busch did it earlier in the year to Kyle Larson and Larson shook his hand after the checkers fell.Good exciting racing.



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Msg ID: 2537348 Roger, John McC +0/-0     
Author:mdy
10/29/2018 4:26:47 PM

Reply to: 2537301

I'm with you guys. I didn't like it when Dale Sr. and Waltrip drove like that and I like it less now. Guess thats why I have lost interest in Cup racing. 



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Msg ID: 2537327 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:jeffrey
10/29/2018 1:24:19 PM

Reply to: 2537225

Come on. Are you guys kidding me? Racing for the win and contact on the last lap. This is what NASCAR wanted when they went to stage racing. Truex had room to move up and chose to hold his line. He had to know Joey was there. I wonder what his spotter was saying on the radio. If it was the other way around and Marty was under Joey Truex should have done the same thing. Earnhart Sr. did it every week and was cheered for it. It would have been even better if Denny snuck in there for the win!



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Msg ID: 2537331 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Radford46
10/29/2018 2:04:33 PM

Reply to: 2537327

 

From ESPN:

If Truex did race like that, if he had just dumped Logano or made more contact with him to take the lead, few would have blinked.

"He certainly could have done that and nobody would have thought any different of that," said Denny Hamlin, who ended up finishing second.

Logano viewed his move as a classic bump-and-run. Truex didn't. Who's right?

"It depends on who is doing it," Hamlin said. "If it's your favorite driver, you love it. If you don't, it's dirty. I knew with two [laps] to go I was going to be in a great position to try to win this race because I knew they were going to get into each other.



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Msg ID: 2537344 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Radford46
10/29/2018 4:14:24 PM

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Msg ID: 2537360 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:paintman
10/29/2018 5:16:16 PM

Reply to: 2537225

You guys need to get a clue. If someone had handed you the script to yesterdays race a week ago, with all the names redacted, you would have been jumping for joy wanting to watch this race. You would have been up on a stump with your NASCAR flag waving it around and shouting this is what short track NASCAR racing is all about. Why would any of you not want to see two cars come off the 4th turn sideways, with tires smoking heading towards the checkered flag. While at the same time the third place car comming from nowhere to finish second? But because it was a Jersey boy that got the short end of the stick, you now have your panties all up in a bunch.

Seems like alot of people calling into NASCAR radio are trying to compare Truex to Mark Martin. Saying that he is to clean of a driver. I disagree, Truex doesn't have half the class that Mark Martin has. Mark Martin would not have gotten out of his car with crocodile tears and complained about how he got the roughed up. Mark Martin would have gotten out of his car, thanked his crew, thanked his sponsors and fans, and gone on to the next race.

Do you guys even know what you want a good race to be anymore. I mean you guys complain when theres not enough passing. you complain about 40 cars running side by side for 500 miles. You complain when someone gets penalized for an uncontrolled tire. You complain about to many green, white checkers, You complain about none of the drivers have any personality and there to vanilla. You complain about the new point system, etc. etc. etc.

Ok I can take it, bash away.

 



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Msg ID: 2537367 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/29/2018 5:51:37 PM

Reply to: 2537360

I have neither the time nor the inclination to "get a clue" about Nascar's latest debacle. I watched some of the races earlier this year but now, I couldn't have told you where the race even WAS until the controversial ending popped up on my phone. Looked it over and went back to the Rams and Packers. Until Joe asked the question about the ending of the race, my reaction was to shake my head and move on. Lastly, I have no idea where they're racing this weekend, nor do I care, but I'll be at BP Friday and Saturday.



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Msg ID: 2537386 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Gordon1
10/29/2018 8:01:07 PM

Reply to: 2537367

Latest debacle,seriously!Great side by side racing ,great finish.Sorry pal but you obviously don’t know a good finish when there is one.This is the type of racing race fans have been waiting for.Roger your a champion,very surprised that you don’t like a good checker like that.



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Msg ID: 2537397 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
10/29/2018 9:23:19 PM

Reply to: 2537386

My opinion is that it will help give Nascar a bump going into the final few races, but my opinion is that it wasn't a good checkered either, especially having watched the quality of side by side racing leading up to the checkered.  I'm not interested in trying to change anyone's opinion who thinks it was... but I do find it interesting seeing other's opinions.



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Msg ID: 2537362 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:paintman
10/29/2018 5:32:17 PM

Reply to: 2537225

Here, maybe this will be Truex and Logano next week.............. https://imgur.com/gallery/tP3AUvm   



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Msg ID: 2537375 Lighten Up Francis.... +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
10/29/2018 6:44:25 PM

Reply to: 2537225

How ironic is this... Me and my son were just trading one liners from Stripes...  Missed the "Lighten Up Francis" one from Sgt Hulka, but remembered a whole bunch more.  (Excuse me Stewardess, is there a movie on this flight?"....  "So nobody cried when they saw Old Yeller?"....  "Are these my men sir?... No.. Here come your men right now...")

Back to the Martinsville deal, like I said, they say rivalries are good for the sport.

I love all the theories too:  "If you drove, you would have done the same thing..."  You guys are only mad because it happened to a Jersey boy...."  Wrong on both counts in my case, and yup, I never turned a lap in cup racing, as I don't think anyone in this thread has either.  

To me, comparing what happened a few weeks back with Kyle Busch and Kyle Larsen to what happened the last 10 laps at Martinsville yesterday is apples and oranges.  My opinion.  Not looking for others to change theirs.

Amazing that some folks are cool with stating their opinion and reasons for it.  But for some reason, there are others who provide their opinion, but then have to invite an arguement... "I've got big shoulders"...  Bring it on... I can handle it."  Maybe you guys are listening to too much talk radio or something.  If you really need that type of entertainment, I think the complete complete Morten Downey Jr show is now available on DVD.

News flash guys:  The internet has been around for a few decades, and guess what:  After billions and billions of posts, and arguements on every subject... which have costs folks friendships, marriages, and worse, not once has anybody's mind ever been change from their original position.  Not going to happen here either.

If you want to state your opinion, that's cool.  If you can't do it without egg'n folks on to battle it out, and to bring it on, then you're on the wrong board.

So the here's the most important question:

If you weren't planning on watching the remaining cup races, are you any more likely to tune in now?

  • Yes
  • No
  • Same as pre-Martinsville


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Msg ID: 2537377 Lighten Up Francis.... +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/29/2018 6:59:06 PM

Reply to: 2537375
Not as long as there's college and/or pro football on, or the ID channel, lol!


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Msg ID: 2537402 Lighten Up Francis.... +0/-0     
Author:Rick Shive
10/29/2018 10:22:29 PM

Reply to: 2537377

No, because no matter how you slice it, it ain’t even real racing anymore, not since they started giving laps back for no reason. The stage stuff and Chase (or whatever it’s called this year), pretty much guarantees I won’t be watching. Sprint car racing is where it’s at, or football, baseball or basketball. Can’t even remember the time I watched a Daytona “500”.



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Msg ID: 2537411 Lighten Up Francis.... +0/-0     
Author:Double D fan
10/30/2018 1:08:27 AM

Reply to: 2537402

If it's racing, I'm watching. That being said, I don't remember another topic being talked about on here as much as this one !!!



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Msg ID: 2537415 This is why +0/-0     
Author:stocker1042
10/30/2018 5:50:38 AM

Reply to: 2537411

I now watch football on both Saturday and Sunday and a Friday also if there is a decent game to be had locally. 

Throw in legal sports betting in NJ, and boom. 



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Msg ID: 2537418 This is why +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/30/2018 6:35:11 AM

Reply to: 2537415
👍


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Msg ID: 2537433 Lighten Up Francis.... +0/-0     
Author:Harry Meeks Sr
10/30/2018 8:56:19 AM

Reply to: 2537375

I have no interest in watching Nascar, they lost me a while ago.



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Msg ID: 2537437 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Wojo
10/30/2018 9:24:11 AM

Reply to: 2537225
Looks like the roller derby, on 4 wheels! This has been going on for years. No matter what type of track


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Msg ID: 2537486 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:raceasaurus
10/30/2018 1:07:27 PM

Reply to: 2537225

I havn't watched nascar since 2005, I did see the highlight of the last lap.   I don't see where the outrage is frankly.  Martinsville, The Chase elimination format and  it being the last lap makes it less outrageous than it might be otherwise.  In hindsight Truex could have ran him a little dirtier/earnhardtish the last few laps, but he didn't.  Its a  nice pipedream thought that everybody play nice but with the rule package, the sponsorship $$$ and this new format Nascar is trying to improve attendance and TV ratings I don't see what the big hub bub is all about. BTW I'm a Truex fan since the beginning.  I won't watch Nascar until someone figures out that they might wanna go back to the format that they used in the heyday when they added seats to venues and you couldn't get tickets to alot of events.  They continue to shoot themselves in the foot.  Gimme local short track racing anyday over what nascar is providing.



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Msg ID: 2537555 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:D.Wolfe-358
10/30/2018 8:14:33 PM

Reply to: 2537486

  Did not watch the race but watch the replay of the end. Did not see such a big deal with the incident. Truex got the raw deal but he knowing he could be taken out. Seen more blantant acts at some local tracks during the middle of a feature this season.

Not a fan of the New Nascar rules Have at it boys style of racing. However Joey was trying to get the win. With the pressures of sponsors, car owner and team he used the lousy Have at it boys,Nascar style of racing to get to victory lane. Enjoyed reading this thread with the different opinions. Give me a local race over this style or racing, watching a college football instead. 

With that said to answer Joe's question - Same as pre-Martinsville



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Msg ID: 2537572 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:Kevin Mc
10/30/2018 9:18:55 PM

Reply to: 2537555

We were there on Sunday.  Sitting in turn 2.   I dont dislike MTJ or Logano but I feel that Joey stole a great ending by doing what he did. Truex did a masterful job of patiently and more importantly cleanly getting around Logano.  Truex used a scalpel to take the lead, Logano used a sledgehammer to take it back.   Rubbin' aint racin'.



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Msg ID: 2537596 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:dondownsouth
10/30/2018 10:54:10 PM

Reply to: 2537572

Kevin nailed it !!



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Msg ID: 2537624 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:John Mc
10/31/2018 6:02:38 AM

Reply to: 2537572
Couldn't agree more, Kevin.


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Msg ID: 2537632 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:BOBS333
10/31/2018 8:45:30 AM

Reply to: 2537624

 

Logano looked like Blewett at Wall Stadium, with same result



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Msg ID: 2537887 Thank you Kevin Mc +0/-0     
Author:kjeyres
11/1/2018 10:18:11 AM

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Rubbing ant't racing!



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Msg ID: 2538095 Thank you Kevin Mc +0/-0     
Author:Kevin Mc
11/2/2018 10:52:36 AM

Reply to: 2537887

Im a sprint car/Indy Car snob so I always am against rubbing to get past someone.  But I accept the fact that it is condoned and expected in fender racing



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Msg ID: 2537929 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:dave44
11/1/2018 12:37:40 PM

Reply to: 2537225

I watched the end after my son watched the finish of the F1 race.  As Truex was cleanly doing everything he could to pass Logano, I was thinking they finally a decent race.  Then after the last lap bump I turned it off immediately.

I hardly watch at all anymore, but turned on the finish because I do like Martinsville.  Probably won't watch at all the rest of the season.  We do turn on the truck races to see how Friesen is doing.

And they wonder why attendance and TV ratings are down.

Remember back in the 80's when Rudd was penalized and lost a race because of a last lap bump?

 

 

 

 



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Msg ID: 2538106 Anybody watch the Martinsville finish? +0/-0     
Author:sk
11/2/2018 11:14:24 AM

Reply to: 2537929
I remember Frankie got into, I think buzzie at Nazareth he backed off him gather it back up and they went back to racing. Maybe fsiii could help out other driver


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