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Msg ID: 2722509 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
3/7/2022 7:11:34 PM

Did you guys watch anything this past weekend?  (No Indycar, no NHRA, and I don't have Flo, so I watched Camping World Trucks, XFinity and Cup.)

Enjoyed all 3 races with the help of the DVR.

In the trucks, good to see Stew get a good finish (He was listed as 3rd with the DQ of Zane Smith's #38 after the race.)  Todd Bodine in the 2nd Halmar fielded truck had a rough go of it.  Great late restart by winner Chandler Smith.  Great to see him beat Kyle Busch, even though Smith was in a KBM truck too.

Thought both the XFinity and the cup races were decided on questionable final restarts of each race as it didn't look to me like the car that was in the #1 position (Gragson in XFinity & Larson in Cup) actually took off first.  Not sure if they ran out of "Geigo Restart Zone" real estate, or the leader got jumped, but not a word was spoken about it by the announcers in the booth.

Speaking of announcers, I found Danica to add absolutely nothing to the cup broadcast.  Felt like Clint Boyer was trying to deal her in at different times, but it just fell flat.  Then it got to where no matter what she said, Clint would say, "That's a great point Danica...." and then he'd elaborate on the subject to try to carry the moment. 

Last point:  I don't know when Nascar "officially" threw the caution when Eric Jones was wrecking with only a handful of laps near the end of the cup race, but watching the little green/yellow indicator that appears on screen above the running order, it looked like the caution light was put on very late (about 10 seconds after Jones hit the wall - hard.)  His right front wasn't even turning.  (From watching the past few weeks, it's pretty clear that these cars can't steer when they have two flats because the bottom of the car now becomes a big skid plate, never mind having a RF pushed back 2 feet farther than it should be and not turning.) It was pretty obvious (my opinion) that he was having a lot of difficulty in maintaining control of the car after the initial impact....  The car hit the outside wall... richocheted toward to the inside of the track... stayed along the apron/scrubbing through the edge of the infield grass for a while, and then spun back up the track the track with the driver's side facing on coming traffic.  From the time he hit the wall initially, it was about 18 seconds before Bubba Wallace reached the #43, and then had to turn hard left to avoid a direct shot into the driver's side door of the #43, at probably around 150+ mph...

Great job by Bubba avoiding contact with the #43, but my question is, why was it so close to begin with?  Why were cars still approaching (in this case two wide) at speed? 

Was the yellow thrown when it should have been?  Jones hit the wall on the exit of turn 4, before then sliding down the frontstretch.  Bubba was proabably still on the backstretch, or maybe just starting to enter  turn 3 when Jones first made contact with the wall way ahead of him, coming out of turn 4.

https://sports.yahoo.com/erik-jones-brings-caution-las-001949117.html

Today's story lines are about how Bubba avoided contact, which I applaud him as well for the last second maneuver, but maybe there should also be a few stories out there about why this very dangerous, avoidable situation occurred to begin with, and ask did Nascar delay throwing the caution, and if so, why? 

I'm not a racer and have never been, so it would be fair for those who disagree with me to point that I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to a situation like this, but as someone who has watched a lot of races, and have witnessed a lot of dangerous situations.... some avoidable and some not, if Nascar threw the yellow earlier (check out the impact of Jones with the outside wall) it would have given the drivers/spotters more time to react slow up/or chose to slow up, and the situation would never have risen to the dangerous. almost tragic level that it did.



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Msg ID: 2722527 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:Mdracer
3/7/2022 11:07:11 PM

Reply to: 2722509

i too watched all three. However I have the tv on mute. I remove the mute when there is a caution and I want to know who was involved. I started this practice when DW started hogging the mike. 

I inky watch the trucks because of Friesen. I was glad he had a good finish. Although he ran tenth to fifteenth most of the race.

From what you said about Wallace being 18 seconds behind the accident it’s obvious he either didn’t see the caution light or didn’t slow like he’s supposed to. I couldn’t believe 5he crew got that car back out for the finish. 

The low sidewall on the tires is causing major problems. Like you said the car is bottoming out. NASCAR is aware of this and is trying to figure it out. 

I think it is time to go to single file restarts when there are 15 laps or less to go in the race. They talk about containing costs and look at the cost in wrecked race cars that occur during those restarts.

A friend bought me a subscription to Flo Racing. I watched the 410 sprint race at the Port. The coverage was very good. Flo wil have all of the races at Lincoln, Port Royal, Bridgeport, Georgetown, Alk Star Circuit of Cahampions and a host of other tracks around the country. At $12.50 a month it appears to be a great deal. 



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Msg ID: 2722536 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:kjeyres
3/8/2022 9:04:34 AM

Reply to: 2722509

Being we share subscriptions Wink,  I will lend you my FLO password. Check it out and I bet you buy it! Best $150 you can spend in a year. That's about two thirds a cable bill a month versus RACING for a whole year and the divisions you like including your favorite Street Stock type divisons. Basically $12 a month and every Saturday, while sitting at Wall, you can watch Bridgeport halfway break on your phone!



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Msg ID: 2722542 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:Double D fan
3/8/2022 10:53:09 AM

Reply to: 2722536

I got to watch all three, thanks to my DVR. Truck race, glad for Stew and his good finish. Todd may need a little more practice to get back in the groove. I liked both the Cup and Xfinnity for the close racing. It is soooo good to see some of the smaller teams showing up in the top 10. As for Jones and Bubba, where was Bubba's spotter. He had to be screaming there was an accident, if not WHY ?????



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Msg ID: 2722547 Question +0/-0     
Author:Stockcaracer2x
3/8/2022 11:49:02 AM

Reply to: 2722536

Kevin, I signed up for Flo in January. I thought I was going to be charged $12.50 each month, but when I got my credit card I was charged $150. My brother got charged $150 twice last year and last year I  thought I was signed up but never got signed up. Their Web site is a little primitive but the racing is great. I tried to question them on it and having trouble getting an answer. Maybe you can answer this question is the payment of  $150 a year the only way you can sign up? 



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Msg ID: 2722549 Question +0/-0     
Author:kjeyres
3/8/2022 12:07:52 PM

Reply to: 2722547

They do bill for the entire 12 month period at one time, $150. It stings, but now you are watching what you want to watch.  It's like buying a sports package from your cable provider but it's RACING!  You can cancel anytime and they pro rate it.  Check your credit card and dispute anything you think is wrong.  I pay by AMEX, because it is easy to dispute anything or, get a gift card that only has $150 on it, than they cannot automatically renew it on you.  Once the racing season gets into full swing, it's beyond worth everything you spent on it. Bridgeport alone is worth the $150!

I take enough out of Flo that it's a no brainer.  Pain in the butt anymore keeping up on subscriptions and passwords, but it's the world we are in now. I'm just glad I pay for what I want to see and not a cable company jamming crap at me that they want me to see. I don't speak Spanish, but had 8 Spanish channels I had to pay for and so on.



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Msg ID: 2722552 TV Watching This Past Weekend  +0/-0     
Author:D.Wolfe-358
3/8/2022 12:44:51 PM

Reply to: 2722549

Watched both races Saturday & Sunday. Interesting weather in Vegas rain mixed with sleet, & snow. They stopped the race for that. Thats why they stopped racing in Richmond VA early in the year ! Tought Noah was sleeping on that restart. Should of thrown a yellow and done it over.

Sunday was good thought the race was about to finish under green with Busch winning. Nice battle between him and Truex. To me it looked like Bowman got a slight jump on Larsen did not see a reason to call that back. Depends on camera angle. Nascar is always fast to throw a caution! Thought the same thing what why was the yellow not thrown right away. Were they trying to have Kyle B win ? 



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Msg ID: 2722581 TV Watching This Past Weekend  +0/-0     
Author:3-Wide
3/8/2022 4:36:04 PM

Reply to: 2722552

I could be wrong but I thought Larson was lead car for the last restart (had chosen the outside lane) and should have been the one to leave first - not Bowman.



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Msg ID: 2722559 Question +0/-0     
Author:Stockcaracer2x
3/8/2022 1:52:42 PM

Reply to: 2722549

Thank you



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Msg ID: 2722553 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:roboweld
3/8/2022 12:46:12 PM

Reply to: 2722509

Good point Joe made about the restart at the end of the Cup Race.  We tuned in just as the field was lining up for the last restart.  My wife, who only knows anything about racing because she has been forced to listen to me yammer on about it for 40 years, was screaming that Bowman jumped the restart.



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Msg ID: 2722556 TV Watching This Past Weekend +0/-0     
Author:Pee Wee Fan
3/8/2022 1:03:30 PM

Reply to: 2722553

I know Nascar is a money driven enterprise, but what I find sad in all 3 divisions is for every Matt Crafton, Josh Berry, and Kyle Larson, how many drivers are in a race car because they brought money (via a sponsor) to the car.  It seems talent, in most cases, is secondary these days.  Scott Ely   



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Msg ID: 2722568 peewee fan +0/-0     
Author:wallneewvet
3/8/2022 2:54:38 PM

Reply to: 2722556

hey, scott !! you're answer is----- all of 'em !! 

it's the first thing a potential driver is asked---- "how much sponsership can you bring to the table?"

if they've been asked to a sit down with a team , they already know the talent level  is there !!

bobby allison and guys of that era came up the "old " way--got thru modifieds , late model sportsman , on their way to grand national -but even after they made it , they still continued to run shorttrack weekly modified & LMS    shows because it put helped put  food on the table !!

blessings !!

--------------bill---------



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