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Msg ID: 2747409 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:T-Hem
10/20/2022 2:15:00 PM

So everything that has been happening around Bubba Wallace and a high percentage of people who disapprove of his penalty got me thinking.

 

Here is the question:

Do you remember anything that happened at the track and if there was a penalty involved?  Any stories?

What happened at the track (fight in pits,track,accident, etc)

Was there anything done about it?

 

I have a feeling a lot has changed from many years ago on how drivers handled different situations

 

Thanks

T-Hem



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Msg ID: 2747420 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:D.Wolfe-358
10/20/2022 4:08:57 PM

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How many times did John Leach get banned at EWS Undecided

Was at Syracuse the year Gary Balough shoved the outhouse. 



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Msg ID: 2747425 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:ED
10/20/2022 4:52:47 PM

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2 at Flemington in the 60's. Will Cagle penalized (I think for rough riding) and he parks his car broadside on the frontstretch and walks away (hence, my Uncle called him the Tampa Temper). Car towed and he's banned forever, only to return. Sammy Beavers in the Horton 43 disqualified for (oil pan, I think) being too low to the ground. Heads to Middletown for a week or 2 to make a point but returns and wins.



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Msg ID: 2747435 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:dnoldschool34
10/20/2022 6:05:57 PM

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I have been a race director at two tracks and have always told the drivers I didn't car who they were if you break the rule you will deal with the result. The problem has been at both tracks when I suspended the track champ and the other guy who were fighting the promoters let the track favorite back the next week and kept the other guy out. This happened in Nj and Nc.and in each case when I told the drivers what happened I was asked to leave. So I all comes down to who you are and who's ass you kiss. I both case the other drivers have come to me and said I was the fairest guy they ever had but that didn't matter to management.



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Msg ID: 2747436 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:Frank A Jr.
10/20/2022 6:42:34 PM

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The Blewetts were banned for life from Wall Stadium on more than one occasion...



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Msg ID: 2747439 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:AF IV
10/20/2022 8:05:42 PM

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Have just two stories. Both involve Gary Balough driving 73. The first is the one D. Wolfe-358 spoke of. Don't remember the year but in the Seventies on a rainy Super Dirt Week (yes they all involved rain) on the morning of race day Gary pushed a porta John with a rental car and damaged it. DIRT said he would not race that day unless he payed for it. My father payed the bill and Gary was reinstated. 
The other one I'm sure some of you remember when Gary gave the starter at Nazareth the one finger salute and of course the fans as well. He was told to never come back. I believe that one required my Grandfather to have a sit down with Jerry Fried. 



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Msg ID: 2747444 Big Tom @ Nazareth     
Author:Engine Guy
10/20/2022 9:08:24 PM

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Big Tom Hagar had to miss the last race at Nazareth for a fight with Doug Hoffman in Victory Lane...

 



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Msg ID: 2747461 AFIV?????? Curious to know........    
Author:paintman
10/21/2022 7:12:36 AM

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How much did a Porta Potty go for back in those days.



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Msg ID: 2747473 AFIV?????? Curious to know........    
Author:Johnny on the Spot
10/21/2022 9:05:33 AM

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Msg ID: 2747509 AFIV?????? Curious to know........    
Author:B Folder
10/21/2022 1:07:14 PM

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Was any body he didn't like or a official Gary didn't get along with in the port-a-potty.


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Msg ID: 2747546 AFIV?????? ..yes    
Author:AF IV
10/21/2022 7:35:14 PM

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Ken Kuhlman was in it. It was all in good fun. 



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Msg ID: 2747554 AFIV?????? . .. Kenny Coon!    
Author:Rick Shive
10/21/2022 8:09:54 PM

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Not Kuhlman.



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Msg ID: 2747555 You might be right Rick    
Author:AF IV
10/21/2022 8:26:06 PM

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Rick I wont dispute that as it was a long time ago. I always thought it was Kuhlman.



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Msg ID: 2747560 You might be right Rick    
Author:John Mc
10/21/2022 9:35:20 PM

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I heard Kenny Coon too...



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Msg ID: 2747538 Good question    
Author:AF IV
10/21/2022 6:21:30 PM

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I really don't know how much it was. I hope we won that year so dad and Uncle Ronny could get some of it back. 



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Msg ID: 2747597 Good question    
Author:D.Wolfe-358
10/22/2022 11:42:04 AM

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It would be either 1978 in the fall or 1979. 1978 was the first time I went to Syracuse. If that helps determine the year it happened. 



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Msg ID: 2747787 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:RuCu
10/25/2022 9:52:00 AM

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Pee Wee was banned from EWS for the rest of that year and the entire next season for the infamous Joe Kelly incident. Thinking mid 1968 and entire 1969 season or 69 and 70? Don't know if the State of NJ was involved in the penalty as he did drive the race car on city streets - down Airport Road through town and back to the garage.


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Msg ID: 2747928 Penalties Handed Down and Reason    
Author:JHLong
10/26/2022 5:25:37 PM

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Charlie Saunders with the #4 pulling his trailer and back-up car onto the front straight @ Nazareth and parking it right under Ken Golden's flag stand...I think Jerry set the team down for a month... 



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