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Msg ID: 2784858 Rule Change    
Author:T-Hem
6/10/2023 11:22:04 PM

If you were allowed to make one rule change in racing, what would it be?



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Msg ID: 2784866 Rule Change    
Author:Opperman4x
6/11/2023 7:30:29 AM

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No more sheet metal bodies.  All body panels must be original, including doors, roofs trunks and quarter panels.  



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Msg ID: 2784935 Rule Change    
Author:Howie Cronce
6/11/2023 8:46:46 PM

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Good Idea Opp....best way fix the low fan base...Cars are boring and its as bad as Nascar..



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Msg ID: 2784951 Rule Change     
Author:10SpeedBicycleRacer
6/12/2023 8:19:51 AM

Reply to: 2784858

I'd like to be able to actually see the drivers behind the wheel.   Modifieds, sprints, midgets all have too much aero sheet metal.



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Msg ID: 2784974 Rule Change     
Author:RuCu
6/12/2023 4:09:16 PM

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X brace in the top of the roll cage 1.5 outer diameter x .090 wall thickness as the minimum gauge, preferred guage 1/75 x .090


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Msg ID: 2785000 Rule Change     
Author:elf 30
6/12/2023 8:22:00 PM

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Nascar teams only allowed 3 cars.1 super speedway car one short track and one for road courses, and drivers have to help fix em when they wreck em.


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Msg ID: 2785017 Rule Change     
Author:kjeyres
6/13/2023 8:04:09 AM

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Agree with TenSpeedRacer, would love to see "aszholes and elbows" again especially in the midgets....hmmm that does not read too well. LOL  They basically have bodies around them especially in the upper roll cage.



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Msg ID: 2785056 Rule Change     
Author:Pee Wee Fan
6/13/2023 6:31:52 PM

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I cast my vote for dumping today's "refrigerator box" bodies in favor of steel, late model ones.  Not opposed to todays chassis (Bicknells, Troyers, etc) but would like to see them wrapped in a Mustang, Camaro, or a Challenger, etc body.  Hell, let the Nissans, Toyotas, BMWs, etc join the party, as long as they're steel and stock.  Regarding Nascar, I got nothing.  Except maybe turning the clock back about 40 years (excluding safety advances of course).  Scott Ely



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Msg ID: 2785085 Rule Change     
Author:John Springsteel
6/14/2023 8:38:22 AM

Reply to: 2785056

Yeah, the nascar transaxle has to go. It's not emulating any street cars that I can think of. Except the previous generation vette. Their losing regulator local track race fans, because we can't relate to these cars. The new expression will be "Race on Sunday, don't watch next Sunday". 



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Msg ID: 2785086 Rule Change     
Author:kjeyres
6/14/2023 8:46:42 AM

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Thanks to John Springsteels Dad, Steve, (who built my first few body's) and taught me how to build a body.

The body deal is a tough one. I can build a complete, pre painted aluminum body, ready for lettering for my asphalt car in about 12 hours. Including dzus' and rivets, it's about $600, and that's because the price of aluminum is up.  It takes 12 hours to just cut a body off a stock, steel car. Now add the modifying, the body work, the paint and every other detail needed at about 60 hours, plus bondo and paint materials at $600. I'm not sure anyone owning a weekly, competitive race car will be doing that anytime soon.

And John, "Race on Sunday, don't watch next Sunday" is pretty funny!



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Msg ID: 2785116 And...    
Author:.John Mc
6/14/2023 4:36:33 PM

Reply to: 2785086
Kevin, you forgot the cost of late model sheet metal. Guys like Harry Fleming aren't around anymore that would let you wander around the yard, pick something out and take it for no charge. Get your wallet out.


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