I was thinking the other day how few actual car owners there are anymore that actually tow a car to the track, and then have a steady (or sometimes not so steady) driver take a seat behind the wheel.

It still happens I think in sprint car racing, but it is certainly a rarity when it comes to modifieds and sportsman....

Remember the big wooden point standings boards/signs that were posted across from the concession stand at Flemington?  They always listed out the "Car Owner" standings separately from the "Driver" standings.  I remember most nights I would stop by and stare up at those boards...  figuring out which driver drove for which car owner and then trying to figure out why the position/rankings in the standings didn't always match (driver and owner.)

So... the question is, what car owners do you think of from back in the 60's and 70's... that although they might have taken a few trips behind the wheel, were definitely known as being a car owner more than for their driving.

Provide "Car Owner's Name", "Car #", and if you want, add a few names of the drivers who sat behind the wheel for them.  Since we have both Dirt and Asphalt fans here, please add if it was "Dirt" or "Asphalt."

Let's see what you guys come up... Those that might be considered somewhat well known, and those that maybe weren't so well known, but who built and/or fielded a car/cars mainly for someone else to drive.

Charley Sanders #4  Sandy Rochelle among others

Geoff Yoder #94  Kim Trout

Pat Ronco  #R12 Sonny Strupp

Bob Faust #M1 Billy Pauch among others

Modified #21 Dirt.....Owner..Fred Menschner..Drivers..Ray Neary...Oliver Bulter

Whitey Kidd #125 and #95. Roger Laureno, Gary Gollub, MeMe DeSantis and Whitey Kidd jr.

Tony Sesley #16. Mike Garbac, Paul Kline, Glen Fitzcharles, Sammy Beavers, Billy Pauch and Roger Laureno

Ray Everitt #4 jr...Rags Carter

Rich Marinelli #M1 - Kevin Collins

Rich Marinelli #M2 - Dickie Anderson

Ritter/Kleintop #666 - Bobby Bottcher and others

Tico Connely #14j - Alan SAJ SIDEWAYS Johnson

Ray Bramall #6 - Brett Hearn

Vince Valariano #60 -Buzzie among many others

Dave Piscopo # 39 / Drivers :Tas , Budd Olsen

Joe Bullock #76 / Drivers : Dick Havens , Freddy Adam , Gerald Chamberlain 

Bob Wertz #57 , #19 / Drivers : Bill Williams , Kenny Brightbill & others in the flat head days 

Kennedy Bros. #98 , #56 / Drivers : Beader Kennedy , Sammy Beavers , Lauden Potts & others

A.T.Consoli #54 Drivers : Gary Wolford , Toby Tobias , Bobby Gerhart & others 

Cozze Bros. #44 , #80 / Drivers : Tas , Bobby Pickel , Budd Olsen , Frank Cozze & others    

    I will stop here & give others a chance ! I apologize for getting on a roll !!  

** PS ** Totally forgot Glenn Fitzcharles in the Kennedy Bros./Machemer #56 !!

Jack Kiley #26   Billy Winters  Walt Bettler

Bubby Walters  #808, 080   Les/Ed Farley  Dave Pace  

Al Silliman #4  Oliver Butler  Les Farley  Tom Hager

Lucky Jordan  #2  Jackie McLaughlin

Stan And Tom Hager drove the 4T7   

Yes emmett alfrey owned Cranberry and Gold 47   As stated by John   Tommy Carberry owned white 47 that Mike Grbac and Dick Haven drove.

You guys missed the #1 choice, Easton, PA's Harold Cope--Rags. Malzahn, Rossell, Bottcher, etc.

also..Freddy Fehr and Otto Harwi

Augie Lieber #57. lots of drivers over the years ran his cars, some that come to mind are Sammy Beavers, Mike Grbac, Jimmy Winks, and Chuck Ciprich.

George Van Varick #17G, with Mike Grbac and Paul Rochelle

Bob Smith #16, usually a purple car, Bob drove it, then Newt Hartman and Paul Rochelle drove it.

Wally Marks #1 rough-looking cars but always a local favorite at the Square

Norica #81 with drivers  Stan the Man Polski, Sammy Beavers, Billy Pauch, and more!

Sonny Dornberger #99 with MeMe Desantis, Billy Pauch, and others. 

Plenty more from the '60s & 70's However I will leave it to others. 

Tony Ferrante Sr. owner of the X3 driven by Jimmy Hendrickson and later on the 31 driven by Tony Ferrante Jr.

Ed Ackerman Owner of the Ace & 2 of Spades 1963, The 1 & 2 1964 & The 2 & 3 1963. Ace was driven by Al DeAngelo & 2 of Spades Sal Mauro. The 1 driven by Gene Gamache and the 2 by Sal Mauro & Eddie Flemke( Eddie built both the 1 & 2 for the 1964 season. The 2 driven by Gil Hearne & the 3 by Rene charland.

1965 for the 2 & 3.

i cant believe nobody has said paul deasey the big donkey 707 - tas, gerald c, ploski ,opperman ect

Rio Brother R-10: G. Fitzcharles. Dirt

Dick Barney #14: Wally Dallenbach, Richie Massing, Bob Rossell, Siscone(started driving the 14 in 1978) - Pavement

Henry Verity- dirt sportsman and modified: Horace Drake, Wilbur Force, Bruce Hooper.

Butch Klein- dirt sportsman and modified: Leon Harrison, Ebby Ridge, Bob Stull, Ken Johnson.

Barry Schenc- dirt sportsman and modified: Rich Varone, Larry Kline, Phil Meisner, Tom Hager, Randy Wolfe, Al Michalchuk, Billy Schenck.

Mike O'Shea- dirt modified: Larry Kline, Stan Ploski, Ken Brenn, Jr, Fritz Epright.

Bob Weikert- dirt modified: Kenny Weld, Bobby Gerhart, Jimmy Kirk.

Hassler Brothers- dirt modified: Jim Keppley, Billy Stief, Ron Tobias, Ronnie Tobias, Dave Kelly.

Bob VanSyckle- dirt modified: Wyatt Jacobus, Smokey Peters.

Dick Barney #14: Wally Dallenbach, Rihie MAssing, Bob Rossell, Siscone(started driving for Barney in 1978) - Pavement

Ferraiuolo brothers!

Whip Mulligan

Gary Balough

Billy O

Sammy Beavers

more...?

Harry Myers. 31 Al Becker, Tom Nuneviller

Walt Garrett  2a dirt Fuzzy Vanhorn, Ronnie Dunstan, George Sleight, Ken Wismer jr

Pat Ronco R12 dirt  George Sleight, Sonny Strupp, etc

Billy Cramer 999 dirt Otto Harwi

Scats Anfuso  3 dirt  John Drauker, Dell Buss, etc...

Socks Valeriano 6jr dirt  Ken Wismer sr, and many more

John Norcia 81  dirt/asphalt  Beavers, Osmun, etc

Turner Bros #47 & #471,  Bill Williams, Larry Voss, Dick Havens, Tony Volz, Georgie Sleight, Rags Carter, Freddy Adams, 

Ken Davis - dirt - Billy D, Paul Rochelle

Otto Burger -36 - Harry Stickles, Jerry Morgan, Paul Rochelle, Tony Matta Paul Fitzcharles, can’t remember the last guy....

One night each for Wayne Reutimann and Donnie Varner. 2 nights for Mike Grbac.

Last guy was John Hubbard.

Heck of a list.  I'd like to add: The Vic Gilbert 147 was driven on asphalt by Augie Moschera in the early to mid 60s and then the Taylor twins, who also drove Gilbert's 47 and 148.  Pappy Smith's 107 was driven, also on asphalt, by Franny Steinmetz and then Augie Moschera (after he left the 147).  Augie's last feature win came in the 107 at Wall in 1966.  I didn't see any mention of Harold Cope and his # 1.  Cope's hot rods were driven by Rags Carter and Bobby Rossell.  I don't know why but I want say Bob Malzahn may have also been behind the wheel of the Cope 1. And speaking of # 1, did anyone mention Wally Marks. I recall that George Hudick owned the 22 and 26 white coupes that ran Reading and occasionally Flemington.  I recall Red Coffin driving one of the Hudick cars but can't remembe which one.  Scott Ely2  

Leinbach Bros. #9 / Drivers : Blain Sadler , Australian, Tony Matta , Paul Fitzcharles , I think possibly Glenn Fitzcharles , & too many more to mention !!  

A2A Owner Name ??? , Drivers , Bob Pickell, Others ?? 

Fodor 13, Drivers Joe Kelly, Sammy Beavers.

A & B Barry Schneck , Larry Klein, and many more.

Ege 9, Bobby Bottcher, Gary Balough.

Chris Day, the owner of the A2A, A4 and (I recall) A3 was Fred Brian.  Charlie Creagar also drove for Fred Brian at Flemington. Scott Ely

Almost forgot, the Walt Zong owned 39Jr and 707.  I recall that Al Tasnady and Blaine Sadler drove for Walt Zong at Reading.  Scott Ely

Ed Farley also drove the Edge 9.

Ritter/Kleintop 666.  Drivers: Del George, Bobby Bottcher, Wayne Reutiman.

My friend Gary Phillips 11X and 11ex: Joe Inglin, Gary Phillips and Jay Aten.  Jay finally got Gary his feature win at Nazareth the last year Gary ran.

Steve-  The very first modified feature winner (June 1965) at East Windsor was Russ Hoek in Ege/Hildebrand #9.  The same owners who Gary Balough had so much success with when he first came north.  Scott Ely

Tom Skinner ..... Six Fifty Nine .... Asphalt and occasional Dirt

Ferraiuolo racing 1977 and 1978 sportsman AFIV and gary balough in 77 and Billy Osmun wining championship at OCFS i MODs