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Msg ID: 2794280 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:TBONE
9/21/2023 7:33:45 AM

I would like to make alist here of cars than ran with non chevy power plants  707 comes to my mind right away  What others can we list



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Msg ID: 2794282 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Opperman4x
9/21/2023 7:46:01 AM

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Wasn't the Johnny Lux 77 that Jackie Evans drove powered by a Ford. 

Gerald Chamberlain 76' were Fords. 

Leon Manchester had a Hemi for a while.   

Billy Brennan had a Hemi.



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Msg ID: 2794284 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:SteveWhitney
9/21/2023 7:58:59 AM

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Harald Cope #1's were Ford powered.



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Msg ID: 2794293 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:ED
9/21/2023 8:59:36 AM

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I think the Ronco Rambler once had an American Motors engine.



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Msg ID: 2794553 Non Chevy race cars - Brennan    
Author:RuCu
9/23/2023 10:36:15 AM

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Brennan was loyal to Chrysler Plymouth Mopar when he first began racing too. He had a 318 cu in small block Plymouth in his Limited Sportsman coupe in the early 70's. It was my father's favorite Limited Spts at that time because our family road car was a Plymouth Fury III with, you guessed it, a 318 cu in V8.


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Msg ID: 2794301 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Oldtimer
9/21/2023 9:29:40 AM

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Not sure how far you want to go back. 

Roy Pauch early coupe - Plymouth hemi. 

Hackettstown Auto Parts-sponsored coupe owned and driven by Abe Levengood and Bob Garboski - Ford Y block. 

Johnny Ditmars ran a small block Mopar in his sportsman Diamond D coupe. 

Mario and Aldo Andretti first novice car was a Hudson powered Hudson. 

It was the 1971 or 1972 season that Clyde Suydam was running a borrowed 390 Ford when his own engines were used up. 

As recently mentioned on the site the Creager-sposored Vince Conrad #9 was 312 Ford powered. 

The Lane flatback Ford #29 coach driven by Zorro Engler ran a 312 Ford engine. 

My late friend Bob Benson ran big block Ford engines in his modifieds at Middletown and Nazareth.  I know I am forgetting many.

If I have this correct I believe that in the early days many tracks required cars to use their own brand engine so that would be a long list of Fords.



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Msg ID: 2794302 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:B Foder
9/21/2023 9:34:46 AM

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The Ricci brothers Mike and Rich ran Ford's in their small block cars.


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Msg ID: 2794346 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:wallneewvet
9/21/2023 4:07:06 PM

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how about Don House's & Al Gerhams XL-1 COUPES --

Also remember Matty & Ann Mcmann's purple 4 asphalt cars coupe and sedan -

Norcia Bros. #81 asphalt car at wall stadium -ford power ( i think )

Hank Dudley #15 with a hemi --

thanks for the post !! 

blessings !!

bill----------



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Msg ID: 2794307 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:bammer48
9/21/2023 10:14:59 AM

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I remember Frankie Schneider showing up at Middletown with Pontiac power on occasion



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Msg ID: 2794310 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Pee Wee Fan
9/21/2023 10:53:17 AM

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T-Bone, good topic.  The Norcia's 81 sportsman coupe, driven by Artie Filburn and Don Stives, was powered by a 289 Ford V-8.  That hot rod was very competitive against the Wall Stadium modifieds in the early and mid 60s. 

Speaking of Wall in the 60s, The Dick Barney 14 coupe was powered by an injected Oldsmobile V8. 

The Don House XL-1 was a Ford/Lincoln powered rocket ship. 

Wally Dallenbach and his cousin Richie Massing ran the 35a and 35b, both powered by, I believe, Buick motors.

I recall Johhny Luhrs ran Ford motors at Wall in the 70s. 

At Reading, Nazareth, and sometimes Flemington, the MeMe DeSantis H&J 14 coupe, was powered by a injected Ford V8. 

Getting a little more recent, didn't Billy Pauch Sr occasionally run a Dodge V-8 at New Egypt, and maybe East Windsor, in the late 90s, early 2000s? 

In my opinion, the Chevy small block became the dominant motor in the early 60s while its big (block) brother became the BMOC (big motor on campus) a few years later. 

Its not modifieds but wasn't Ray Tilley a hot ticket in Bud Grimm's PA "Bug" (today's PA posse) back in the 60s? 

While on sprint cars, wasn't the Scats Anfuso machine also powered by a Ford V8. 

I'm sure you 3Widers have a ton more of "non" Chevy hot rods, but that's all I can come up with at this point.  Scott Ely 



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Msg ID: 2794428 scott     
Author:wallneewvet
9/22/2023 10:25:08 AM

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 nice post, scott !! yeah , small block chev's were so much more plentiful when 

you went looking ffor an engine to build + chevs were a lot less expensive to build up tham fords or mopars-

blessings !!

bill----------



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Msg ID: 2794309 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:jman
9/21/2023 10:50:44 AM

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Al Whitehouse always had Fords in his cars



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Msg ID: 2794312 Al Whitehouse Ford racers    
Author:Pee Wee Fan
9/21/2023 11:13:22 AM

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Jman- GREAT ANSWER, and thanks for mentioning Al Whitehouse!  And, I'm embarrassed that I didn't come up with the Whitehouse Ford powered hot rods.  Lynn Whitehouse, Al's wife, was my first cousin!  My dad, Carl, lettered Al's first car, the white #51 coupe powered by a Ford flathead V8.  Too much floating around between my ears I guess.  Scott Ely



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Msg ID: 2794340 Al Whitehouse Ford racers    
Author:jman
9/21/2023 2:19:25 PM

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Bob Mccullough is my uncle. When I was kid we used to sit in the stands with Lynn and Margeret Patterson. I think Bob Patterson also ran Fords.



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Msg ID: 2794429 Al Whitehouse Ford racers    
Author:wallneewvet
9/22/2023 10:29:43 AM

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i remember al  & sometimes lynn coming to ron bucks to pick up his machine   work/engine parts-

what a pisser he was !! 

bill



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Msg ID: 2794314 Jman...how come you didn't mention    
Author:Steve Cameron
9/21/2023 11:38:01 AM

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your father's Chrysler powered cars Wink





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Msg ID: 2794315 Non Chevy race cars     
Author:D.Wolfe-358
9/21/2023 11:54:01 AM

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Steve Christine ran a Ford one season at Flemington, #351



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Msg ID: 2794324 Non Chevy race cars     
Author:SteveWhitney
9/21/2023 12:45:09 PM

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Steve also ran Dick Lynch's 99 (former Cozze 44).  That car had a Boss 302 Ford in it.



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Msg ID: 2794903 Non Chevy race cars     
Author:TV 74
9/27/2023 11:27:49 AM

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TERRY VAN'S SPORTSMAN  #74  1969 BOSS 302 FORD



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Msg ID: 2794327 Non Chevy race cars     
Author:weathrmn
9/21/2023 12:53:13 PM

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Tom Hager ran Ford power until he ran out of parts from Walt Garret's 2A ( I have a few pieces from Tom)

Joe Bullock ran Pontiacs at one time.

Rich Chilmonik at Flemington small block Ford,

Fred Rahmer small block Ford at Grandview

I used a 2300 4cyl. Ford in my midget



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Msg ID: 2794325 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:SteveWhitney
9/21/2023 12:47:21 PM

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The Ponitac power mention jogged my memory.  I know that Chet Crane's 02 was Pontiac powered because Chet was a die-hard Pontiac man. 

I believe that the Carl Van Horn/Chet Crane 71E cars were also Pontiac powered back in the day.



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Msg ID: 2794326 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:B Foder
9/21/2023 12:50:28 PM

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The 50s and early 60s the flat head Ford and Mercury's ruled the speedways.  There were some tracks would have none Ford events.  The Reading Rocket Russ Smith used to dominate using Ford flat heads. DD rebel Harris drove a flat head ford for car owner Joe Lawrence.



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Msg ID: 2794331 Bill Brennan Hemi #5    
Author:Tom from Tuckahoe
9/21/2023 1:30:36 PM

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More than 50 years of racing.

Brennan Piling #5 Hemi Powered.



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Msg ID: 2794347 Laird brothers     
Author:wph258
9/21/2023 4:21:14 PM

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I think the Laird brothers had crysler motors in there cars



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Msg ID: 2794525 Laird Brothers     
Author:3-Wide
9/22/2023 9:34:11 PM

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Not sure if it was Barry or Randy that drove the Barracuda Late Model at Flemington back in the day.

Randy drove a Mopar powered modified about 10 years ago at New Egypt...  That thing sounded absolutely evil, and I mean that in a good way!




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Msg ID: 2794355 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:slack
9/21/2023 5:43:43 PM

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Eddie Hanault V 6 Buick


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Msg ID: 2794522 Non Chevy race cars - V6    
Author:RuCu
9/22/2023 8:37:23 PM

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You could hear the scream of Hanaelt's V6 over the entire field of V8's as the cars went down the backstretch at OCFS!


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Msg ID: 2794360 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Jd57
9/21/2023 6:30:29 PM

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Gus Kinder in Mickey Bana's sprint car 289 ford fuel injected.


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Msg ID: 2794369 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Jd57
9/21/2023 7:00:57 PM

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Sorry Bana's black # 69 sprint car.


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Msg ID: 2794382 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Rick Shive
9/21/2023 9:22:35 PM

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Doug Pannepacker ran Mopar for years.



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Msg ID: 2794399 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Sprint93
9/22/2023 1:32:36 AM

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Casey Luna sprint cars were Ford powered.  Same for 7TW cars when Jeff Swindell drove for them. 

SMRC Midgets had Carl Miller with Oldsmobile V-8's, and Midge Miller ran 215 cu. in. all aluminum Buick V-8's.  His $5000.00 engine was banned by ARDC because he was beating all the high dollar Sesco's and Esslinger's at the time.



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Msg ID: 2794406 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:SteveWhitney
9/22/2023 7:11:07 AM

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There was a limited sportsman # 7 coupe that was painted red on one side and white on the other that was powered by a 300CI Ford six.  Car ran Middletown.  It made a very distinctive sound.



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Msg ID: 2794521 Non Chevy race cars - Red and White #7    
Author: RuCu
9/22/2023 8:33:32 PM

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The half red and half white #7 Limited Sportsman was driven by Jack Zuidema (sp) at OCFS. Also saw him compete at East Windsor.


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Msg ID: 2794423 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Stymie
9/22/2023 10:07:41 AM

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Parker Bohns GMC 6 cyl.


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Msg ID: 2794465 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:3-Wide
9/22/2023 12:04:36 PM

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Tom Monninhoff #15 had "Ford" written on the hood of his sportsman racer at Flemington in the 70's.

In early 90's, the Ken Onka owned #12 that was driven by Butch Green had maybe Buick(?) heads on it?  (Maybe one of you motor guys can tell us what was up with that.)

In more recent years, the C&S Equipment #6 owned by Craig and Leslie Pondish (driven by Danny Bouc) often has Ford power under the hood.



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Msg ID: 2794469 Non Chevy race cars FORD 15    
Author:Rick Shive
9/22/2023 12:24:36 PM

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Tom Monninghoff. To this day, his personalized license plate number is FORD 15.



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Msg ID: 2794476 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:D.Wolfe-358
9/22/2023 1:25:08 PM

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The last Olsen frame I purchased from Doug had Pontiac Big Block heads, in it at one time. Former Jimmy Chester car. Gloria Katonia K-3 had Buick's heads, they were a conversion that bolted on to the Chevy's. 

I did not want to get into the newer cars, but Danny Johnson and several others went to Ford in the 358 division at the Syracuse mile. A fewer teams others made the switch also. 



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Msg ID: 2794493 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Jd57
9/22/2023 4:35:51 PM

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Good call,saw a lot of those cars run.Saw Mike Grbac win a feature at Nazareth in R12,301 amc. Heard there were parts from Penske. When Penske ran nascar with Mark Donahue.


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Msg ID: 2794564 Non Chevy race cars OLDSMOBILE     
Author:Rick Shive
9/23/2023 1:36:26 PM

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1975 Jennerstown modified champion Doug Banda, Oldsmobile.



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Msg ID: 2794597 Non Chevy race cars OLDSMOBILE     
Author:Sprint93
9/24/2023 2:03:21 AM

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Wow Rick.  That's one scary looking car!



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Msg ID: 2794720 Non Chevy race cars OLDSMOBILE     
Author:Rick Shive
9/25/2023 9:38:27 AM

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Yes it is! Those western Pa cars were interesting looking back then!



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Msg ID: 2794587 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Lester Potts
9/23/2023 7:49:25 PM

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Barry Renninger Ford power Big Diamond, Grandview, Penn National racer.

 


 

 



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Msg ID: 2794598 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:etw1
9/24/2023 6:12:12 AM

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John Bennett's 429 Boss Headed 460.  He told me it was the most powerful engine he ever had   



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Msg ID: 2794651 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Sprint93
9/24/2023 6:26:30 PM

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All great examples of "Run what you brung".  Not the cookie cutter cars of today.  God forbid somebody thinks outside of the box.



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Msg ID: 2794758 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Stanton327
9/25/2023 5:45:48 PM

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My Grandfather Pat Patterson ran a Ford 351 in his #33 and my Dad Larry ran a Ford 289 in his #43 in Sportsman division at Wall stadium in the 60s-80s.



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Msg ID: 2794794 Non Chevy race cars    
Author:Lester Potts
9/26/2023 7:11:08 AM

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Norm ran a Ford power plant in his cars from time to time. Here is Billy Pauch behind the wheel in this one.

 




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Msg ID: 2795451 Non Chevy race cars - Buick    
Author:RuCu
10/4/2023 6:19:50 AM

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Early 60's Old Bridge. Jim Hoffman and/or his brother Russ Hoffman had a small block fuel injected Buick V8 engine in one of their Modified's.


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