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getting old and have trouble remembering dates. I think it was either the late 1980’s or early 1990’s. Outlaw show at the Grove. Steve Smith, the father, came in second in the feature. Ted Johnson the owner of the world of Outlaws wanted to pump Smith’s motor for cubic inChe’s. Grove management said no well pump the engines of the top five. Johnson backed off. What does that tell you? Maybe Kinser, Swindell and the gang may have had big motors? Just saying.