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Just listened to the podcast over the last few days - it's just under 2 1/2 hours long. It's way more than you get on TV, youtube or streaming.

As a Terry Labonte fan from the early 80s, it was great to hear some if the backstory behind what happened at Hagan before and after winning the championship in '84. Never realized why the team switched to Oldsmobile and those championship winning chevrolets were sold to Hendrick and became the Levi Garrett cars driven by Geoff Bodine in '86. And how they took a show car and dominated Rockingham with it.